Chile: Globalising solidarity
Last week Javier Chavez visited Sydney as part of his tour of major centres in Australia. Javier is a member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Chile and the Secretary of the Party in the IX Region of the country. He spoke with Bob Briton from The Guardian about the purpose of his visit, the political situation in Chile and the commitment of his party to building links of solidarity with progressive forces around the world. Bob Briton: What is the purpose of your visit to Australia? Javier Chavez: I have been invited to come to take part in the events commemorating the 30th anniversary of the coup d'itat in Chile. For that reason I have been participating in activities in Melbourne, Adelaide and Sydney. I was invited to take part last Sunday in a ceremony in Fairfield to inaugurate a statue of our martyred President Salvador Allende. The commemorations have been a very important and it is very clear that the image, the esteem in which Allende is held is growing throughout the world. The people who assassinated him and so many others are now covered in shame. There have been events taking place throughout the world giving recognition to the contribution of Salvador Allende. In every city in Chile there was a demonstration to mark the 30th anniversary of the coup. It is possible to say, then, that the figure of martyred President is still alive. He remains as a symbol of hope for the oppressed peoples of the world, not only those of Chile. BB: What impression did it make on you that there were such significant commemorations in Australia? JC: It is well known that there are important links of solidarity between the people of Australia and the people of Chile. Even after 30 years, you still feel that those bonds of solidarity are there. As a party, we have been very impressed that in every activity in Sydney the trade unions have been involved. Left and progressive forces have been well represented, as well. This indicates to me that progressive people around the world have kept alive the desire to change the world. Allende Government BB: Has there been a change of attitude among the people of Chile toward the period of the Allende Government in recent times? JC: Thirty years after the coup, the truth is finally coming to the surface. The commemorative events have served to involve the youth and to help them know more about those years of Popular Unity Government. However, after 17 years of dictatorship and 12 years of the concertacion [post- dictatorship coalition government], there is still much to be done to convey the true meaning of the Allende Government to the people of Chile. Things are starting to be known about the policies of that time: a half- litre of milk per day for every child, the nationalisation of natural resources, the nationalisation of the banks, the agrarian reform. Above all, there was the real participation of the people in the running of the country — it was an experience in people's democracy. BB: Is the illusion widespread in Chile that a form of "people's capitalism" is being built in the country? JC: The official propaganda that Chile is some sort of paradise in Latin America is very strong. Some sectors of the population believe it. The reality, however, is even stronger than the propaganda. Chile is a country in which 40 per cent of the population live below the poverty line. That reality is very strong and cannot be overcome by the propaganda. People have been waiting for 12 years since the fall of Pinochet to see change — 12 years to carry out democratic changes in the country. It hasn't happened so it is time for people to take the task of bringing about change into their own hands. BB: What are the obstacles facing progressive forces in organising a fight back against these conditions? JC: It's a difficult task to organise all the popular forces that are struggling against the system. One of the principal problems is that during the dictatorship, the people faced criminal repression with detention and torture. However, the same laws that existed during the dictatorship are still in existence right now. The Chilean Government and the structures of society are still very authoritarian — they maintain the same constitution and the same laws. An example is the labour code that impedes the formation of large and effective unions and limits the capacity of unions to negotiate on behalf of workers. This hampers the work of building a strong movement today. We recognise that the people are not alert to all this and that there is a false consciousness about the issues. This is beginning to change, though, as poverty begins to exert itself even more strongly. The Communist Party, together with other sections of the left, are working to accumulate this experience and to revive the popular movement as the major force in society. We have to interact and build our own forces to resist the government. BB: Is there more unity among left forces in Chile than has been the case in previous times? JC: Today in Chile we don't have the traditional left forces that we knew in the days of the Popular Unity government. The left-wing groupings are widely dispersed. As a Party we've taken it on ourselves to talk with all these left-wing forces so that we can build a single social and political movement. After all, social issues are political issues. The left will gain strength if it succeeds in building strong links with social movements, above all with the workers. When we talk about social issues we are talking about the struggles of the unions, the students, peasants, women and the Indigenous people. There is also a cultural movement reaching sections of the youth that don't have any official means of expression. Mapuche struggle BB: You've mentioned a resurgence of activity among the Indigenous Mapuche people. Is the Party involved in these activities? JC: Yes. We support the aspirations of the native people of Chile. In Chile, as in many other parts of Latin America, the Indigenous movement is one of the only ones to mount effective resistance against the transnationals. There are difficulties, of course, but it is a very active resistance. We support the efforts of the Mapuche to reclaim autonomy and their land. This movement wasn't born within the Communist Party but within the Mapuche community. However, the Communist Party is the only party organised on a national basis that gives one hundred percent support to that movement. Many other left organisations support this struggle. They are not, however, organised at a national level. BB: Are youth being attracted to the Party and its youth organisation mainly through cultural work? JC: The youth are a part of society that is very disenchanted with the current state of affairs in the country, with the government and with politics. The youth were the ones that struggled most against the dictatorship — the majority of the victims in the fight against Pinochet were young people. They struggled for years but the government of transition that we have is not what they were hoping for. Naturally, they are disenchanted. Youth However, we have a nationwide organisation of youth in Chile that has good links with the education sector at the university and secondary school level and with the new cultural movement that you can see developing in poor communities. The Communist Youth also works within the trade unions on cultural matters. We hope that the Communist Youth succeeds in building links with the struggles talking place throughout the country. BB: Could you describe the difficulties facing the Party in the electoral arena? JC: The electoral laws currently in force in the country were formulated during the dictatorship. We have an institutionalised two-party system that does not permit representation from the popular organisations. The parliament only has representatives of parties supporting the system. To put it another way, the parliament does not represent express the aspirations of the people. A parliamentarian in Chile is paid eight million pesos ($A 20,000) a month while a worker receiving the minimum wage gets one hundred and twenty thousand pesos ($A 300) a month! Naturally, the people don't love the members of parliament or feel a connection to the parliament. Sometimes we feel a pride in not having any representation in the parliament. More than trying to build representation in the parliament, we are working to build a strong social movement. We take part in election campaigns but only with the purpose of getting an alternative message across to the largest number of people possible. Building a social alternative BB: How do you anticipate the process of change will develop? JC: It will depend on the development of, the existence of a social alternative in Chile. The present authorities will not bring about social change in Chile. In this context it is very important to consider what happened last August 13 during the national strike called by the Central Unitaria de Trabajadores [Chile's major trade union peak council]. The strike was called to advance claims affecting the immediate situation of workers but also in support of all of those opposed to the system. Change will depend on the capacity of popular forces to build a social and political alternative. In this period it is vitally important that we unite all the progressive forces around the world. The transnationals have globalised poverty, exploitation and hunger. It is time for the workers to globalise their resistance. It is possible. We Chilean Communists are open to any proposal aimed at fighting our common enemy, which is US imperialism. Another world is possible.